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Littlefoot1616

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I'm really sorry to hear that your family is giving you such a hard time Karmarsi. As much as we don't like to hear about it, abuse from family members does happen to some unfortunately.

Again, like everyone else, all I can do from here is offer advice that hopefully you feel you can carry out at some point.

Firstly, if your mother is that hateful, you need to relocate. And by that, you should be of the age whereby you do not need her consent. Don't bother asking her coz all she'll do is throw negativities your way. Why tug that baited hook when you know there's nothing but trouble on the other end? If you know this is the case, what's the point in going back to that source when you've already tried and been rejected. At the age you are now, you are able to carry out your own wishes and you don't need anyone's say so. You are your own person. I won't pretend to sugar coat it but moving out with very little in the way of money or savings is hard. That being said, the way your mother acts towards you and the abuse she's been inflicting on you should be more than enough drive to want to be away from it. You don't deserve any of it so why suffer when, believe it or not, you have the power to do something about it. Your mother's nay-says and negative vibes will make you doubt yourself which is only natural if that's the only interaction you've had with people who are supposed to be your first role models in life. The first step is to reject those comments and be able to see yourself in a more positive light. It's not easy but if you can give yourself that self-confidence, no one can stop you.

A friend of mine was in a very similar situation to yours. She was physically and verbally abused from a young age by her family. It was terrible for her that sometimes I would get phonecalls from her at random hours of the morning about how she'd run away and was wandering the streets. I found some of the most bizarre ways to get out to see her and (as much as I hated to say it to her) convinced her to go back home. She was only about 15 then. I wish I could have taken her away from it all but being only a few years older and living with folks myself, there wasn't anything I could do. Eventually, when she turned 18, she left her family and managed to get a flat after a few months living in a hostel. It was tough graft for her but her determination to refuse to be abused for no reason drove her to taking steps to leading her own life. I must admit I haven't heard from her in a while but if there ever was anything wrong I know she'd let me know. Therefore I'm taking it as "no news is good news".

Anecdote aside, the first thing you need to do is get out of there. You'll never shine as a person with such a dark cloud hanging over you. You and your fiancee should plan together, away from your abusive mother. It probably won't happen straight away but it will give you something positive to aim towards. I'm sure the pair of you could do it if you seriously think about what you can do about jobs and where you can go. It is a shred of hope you can look to. Above all, just stop relaying these kind of plans via your mother coz you know exactly what she'll do. Don't play into her game. No one should have to turn their back on their own family but if they have made their decision then it is time for you to make yours. You don't intend to live there for ever so why not make a start on shipping out now? Especially if you have someone faithful to stand by you. I'll bet your fiancee is a true ray of light in your life right about now eh? That's something to start on. A step in the right direction. Someone who can see the good in you. It shows the affection your mother probably never displayed to you.

Take it in small advances. If you really want this to stop, take the actions you know you can manage. Don't discuss them with your mother if you know that she'll just shoot them down everytime. Don't give her the satisfaction. Her grip on you will lessen the more you take steps towards engaging your own future. Maybe then, once you have escaped her abuse, she may then see the error of her ways and finally realise just how bad she had treated you.

I hope that helps. It pains me to hear when someone is being subjected to such cruelty that is not deserved. I can only hope that things work out for you. All the best and good luck Karmarsi! ;)


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I wouldn't call them 'family' anymore if they treat you like that...

So, your so called 'mother' wants you to be like her friends daughter?
Sounds more like a competition to 'who's daughter is better' to me. That's pretty low...

Don't be afraid to go to college. You can definitely get a good spot to study. =)
And don't even think about giving up drawing while I'm here! I've seen your stuff and they are really good! Just keep drawing. ;)

We all hope your misery will end soon!


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Hello:
 I agree with Littlefoot1616 and Sky, and as an addition, I can say that no matter what they say, you are far better than all of them combined, so do not let them to discourage you for anything and always keep advancing. I think the solutions given here are the best option, so if you chose to take that path, I say that you should really do it, because if you remain there, then you'll only receive more damage.
 I really gope things will get the best turn for you.
 Keep it up!


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I'd gladly live with Walter's family, is they would allow it. They say they don't have enough room for me.

As for college I have the 21st century scholarship, where it pays for full for 4 years of college. My vet tech career takes 2-4 years So I think I might be good on that.
I been thinkin of going to a hotel to stay. We have 3 of them a bit away from my house ( just go straight after turning left off the road ). And there are many restaurants and stores very close to the hotels. A easy walk for me ( we got the mall, walmart, kmart, kroger, animal stores ( <3333 ), a few gas stations, restaurants like olive garden and mcdonalds ). In Nj there is a vet tech school next to his family's home actually which is convientant

I must say I dislike how the father expected you to be a stay at home wife. I plan on being a house caring wife with a job. Kind of a mix. I'll bring home money and pamper my hubby. We want to be a classic family, a nice quiet home, 2 or 3 kids, and a lil bulldog named Chunky~


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Definitely go for that. A hotel might be expensive in the long run, so I hope you find an apartment soon!


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I do hope things work out for you, though it is hard going now.  Good luck.  Sounds like you do have some plans, though staying at a hotel sounds expensive.


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Quote from: Karmarsi,Oct 25 2010 on  12:03 PM
I'd gladly live with Walter's family, is they would allow it. They say they don't have enough room for me.
Do they know about how badly your own “family” is treating you? You wouldn't want to make them think you're trying to guilt-trip them or anything, but if they care about you and aren't so short on space that it would be impossible for them to accommodate you, they might be more sympathetic for your need to escape your current home, and provide you with sanctuary just until you can find an apartment. During that time, perhaps you could “pay rent” by helping out around the house, running errands, etc., and paying for your own food and other resources once you get a job. Basically contribute as much as possible to minimize whatever strain you would put on your fiancÈ's family.



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Quote from: Pangaea,Oct 25 2010 on  04:18 PM
Quote from: Karmarsi,Oct 25 2010 on  12:03 PM
I'd gladly live with Walter's family, is they would allow it. They say they don't have enough room for me.
Do they know about how badly your own “family” is treating you? You wouldn't want to make them think you're trying to guilt-trip them or anything, but if they care about you and aren't so short on space that it would be impossible for them to accommodate you, they might be more sympathetic for your need to escape your current home, and provide you with sanctuary just until you can find an apartment. During that time, perhaps you could “pay rent” by helping out around the house, running errands, etc., and paying for your own food and other resources once you get a job. Basically contribute as much as possible to minimize whatever strain you would put on your fiancÈ's family.
They know about it all. Walter has tried to talk to them and they said yes at first but changed their mind as soon as the time came that we wanted. They know I was gonna get a job and help pay for everything but they still wouldn't allow it...


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you should get away from your wretched mother Karmarsi,hope your Fiance's family accepts you. :)
 

 


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They do accept me, they love me. They just won't let me stay with em.

New fact - I'm terribly sick ( sore throat, heat flashes, coughing up stuff ), for days and mom doesn't believe I'm sick.


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May sound mean, but cough right into her face and she'll figure out.

Hope you feel better soon! Stay warm!


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see if there's a hotel close to where they live that you can stay for awhile.. you need to get away from your mother that's for sure..
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Quote from: Karmarsi,Oct 27 2010 on  12:00 PM
New fact - I'm terribly sick ( sore throat, heat flashes, coughing up stuff ), for days and mom doesn't believe I'm sick.
She dosen't believe you! Dose she have some kind of problem? If you look sick, then you probaly are sick. Hope you get better soon.


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She doesn't believe m on anything really. She thinks everythings a lie.

I wanna know guys - why is it wrong to be jeaous and worryful? I get jealous easily when my fiance hangs around a girl, if its at work, out or whatever ( many girls around try to throw themselves at a engaged man ), and I worry about it. But he seems to want me to stop. Why is it so bad?


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I think there's a certain portion of that,that is natural.. hes your fiance and you don;'t want  someone else muddying the picture. but on the whole, you have to have trust in your partner that he will not stray or be enticed to do so. unfortunately in our society, relationships are a flip of a coin, you have as good a chance of the relationship failing as succeeding, because about half of all marriages end in divorce. you guys aren't married yet, but those are the odds.v as for your mom, well I suspect that once you leave, you're going to break ties with her anyway, so it matters little what she thinks.
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It's quite natural to feel this way.  You love him and you don't want anyone else to take him away from you.  It's a perfectly natural thing of love.  However, you must trust him enough to make the decision on his own.  Other people trying to turn on the one you love is a part of life and one of the biggest tests of a defying relationship.  Letting him make the right decision when these things happen is one of the best things you can do for your relationship.


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I've never been in a relationship (and probably never will be), but I second what Nick and pokeplayer have said. Trust is a very important part of a relationship; if he trusts you not to cheat on him, you should trust him to be faithful to you. Friction between yourself and your fiancÈ is the last thing you want right now.



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Of course I trust him, he's very trustworthy. He's never lied to me or me anything. I believe I'm naturally jealous since I'm not exactly too nice to look at,so I guess it's pinpointed at my unconfidence due to mom again ( thank you for calling me names all my life >.> )


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Trust is the most important part of a relationship. If you have any problems with your fiance, you should talk to him about them and work them out. sometimes they may be conversations you'd rather not have, but it'll be worth it to get the problem dealt with. In my relationship, my girlfriend and I tell each other everything, no secrets, so we've managed to work through several problems that would have sunk an ordinary relationship.

Also, don't worry about your artwork not being well known; that's because you're new. In fact, for someone whose only a month old, you've collected a surprising amount of fans of your work, especially for someone who hasn't drawn LBT characters. Just keep doing what you love and posting it so people can see, maybe draw some scenes from other people's fanfictions (the writers always appreciate that), and you'll become as well known as Sky or WeisellEdwards :)


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Quote from: LettuceBacon&Tomato,Oct 29 2010 on  10:47 PM
Trust is the most important part of a relationship. If you have any problems with your fiance, you should talk to him about them and work them out. sometimes they may be conversations you'd rather not have, but it'll be worth it to get the problem dealt with. In my relationship, my girlfriend and I tell each other everything, no secrets, so we've managed to work through several problems that would have sunk an ordinary relationship.

Also, don't worry about your artwork not being well known; that's because you're new. In fact, for someone whose only a month old, you've collected a surprising amount of fans of your work, especially for someone who hasn't drawn LBT characters. Just keep doing what you love and posting it so people can see, maybe draw some scenes from other people's fanfictions (the writers always appreciate that), and you'll become as well known as Sky or WeisellEdwards :)
We do talk about everything to each other. Literally everything, nothings a secret for us.

And my art s not just here, I been on deviantart nearly 3 years and not many seem to look, nor glimpse, at it.