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1988 Theatrical Release / Re: I think this "uncut version" obsession
« on: November 11, 2022, 08:48:02 PM »
I mean there are cut scenes from the film online. Like the now well always be together ending and some others like ducky making faces and littlefoot crashing into the sharptooths foot. but I believe probably the reason why most of the scenes aren't or cant be released is because there mainly just storyboards.   
Many of them were animated, actually, not just storyboards. The only ones that probably weren't animated was the "Littlefoot and the Snake" scene as well as the Oasis scene.

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Saurus Rock: Member Hall of Fame / Re: Award Winners 2020
« on: November 08, 2020, 02:05:20 PM »
I'm so sorry guys. It's been a chaotic couple of weeks here. At least this didn't take as long for me to get to as my welcome thread did (2 years...!). SO with that being said, I'd like to congratulate everyone on their awards!


Thank you to everyone who picked me to win the first ever edition of the LBT Discussion award. I can't thank you all enough. :yes
I'd like to give a shoutout to Sovereign, who has been a big help with contacting members of the LBT franchise's productions since 2017, as well as Sneak, who has not stopped the search for the uncut Land Before Time since it began. There's also Disneysaurus, who is not a member of this forum, but has contributed a large amount in the search for the uncut version of The Land Before Time for at least six years now. I couldn't have done this without the help of all those who are interested in the production and deleted scenes of The Land Before Time, so thank you. Keep searching everyone ;)

I'd like this one.

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LBT Projects / Re: Sharptooth Tournament
« on: October 27, 2020, 10:44:01 AM »
Finals

3rd Place Matchup: He may not have been able to defeat Sharptooth, but I think his speed and durability is too much for Papa Sharptooth. The Deinonychus should come out on top.

1st Place Matchup: The “bad swimmer” is scary, but he’s NO water version of the Sharptooth. The strongest, the fastest, the most durable, and the scariest sharptooth of them all is THE original sharptooth. None can compare!

 :sharptoothgrrr

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Starday Wishes / Re: Happy Starday Hypno!
« on: October 25, 2020, 02:16:14 PM »
Thanks guys :D
It’s a special one for me for sure!

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LBT Projects / Re: Sharptooth Tournament
« on: October 20, 2020, 05:19:52 PM »
Semifinals

Sharptooth Tournament 4A: This raptor is tough as nails. However, Sharptooth throws the laws of gravity out the window - he is basically a giant version of the Deinonychus. So it shouldn’t be hard to figure out who is the victor.

Sharptooth Tournament 4B: Most land sharpteeth just can’t contend with the Sharptooth of the oceans. Sorry Papa...

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LBT Projects / Re: Sharptooth Tournament
« on: October 13, 2020, 07:59:33 PM »
Quarterfinals

Sharptooth Tournament 3A: This would not be a quick fight. The Plated Sharptooth is a fighter. However, Sharptooth is a monster. Fast, agile, AND large, Sharptooth defies the laws of gravity, which would allow him to leap at Plates and deal damage. The only thing Plates would be able to do is use his claws, but I don’t think that they would be enough to stop this bloodthirsty beast.

Sharptooth Tournament 3B: Like I’ve said before, these kinds of raptors are seemingly unstoppable. The Meanest Sharptooth just isn’t fast enough to stop these fast biters from inflicting wounds.

Sharptooth Tournament 3C: I think Thud’s championship bid ends by being gobbled up by the father of Chomper.

Sharptooth Tournament 3D: Featherhead sharpteeth are probably not good swimmers, and even if they were, I doubt that they would be able to stop such a huge marine monster.

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LBT Projects / Re: Sharptooth Tournament
« on: October 06, 2020, 04:21:31 PM »
Round 2

Sharptooth Tournament 2A: Sharptooth has experience with swamps already. A belly dragger isn’t going to stop his path of carnage.

Sharptooth Tournament 2B: Assuming this is in shallow water so that the land opponent can stand, the Plated Sharptooth should have this. Once again, this shark isn’t a megalodon. If he is, then he’s only a juvenile individual.

Sharptooth Tournament 2C: The meanest Sharptooth shouldn’t have a problem in this fight. Bye Mother.

Sharptooth Tournament 2D: The LBT 7 raptors are by far the most dangerous raptors. A trio killed a whole herd; meanwhile, four LBT 3 had trouble battling the adults. One of them even died early on.

Sharptooth Tournament 2E: Papa Sharptooth was able to stop the Plated Sharptooth, yet the Mountain Sharptooth couldn’t beat a snowball. It should be obvious as to who is the victor here.

Sharptooth Tournament 2F: Sorry Thud, I think you’re just too small to contend with large theropods, even ones like the Allosaurus.

Sharptooth Tournament 2G: The Longneck Sharptooth was scary as hell. Featherhead sharpteeth aren’t very strong in my opinion.

Sharptooth Tournament 2H: Mama Sharptooth doesn’t seem to be a very good fighter. I don’t think that she would beat the massive Sharptooth swimmer.

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Saurus Rock: Member Hall of Fame / Re: Appreciated Member 2020
« on: October 06, 2020, 03:45:58 PM »
My vote goes to Sovereign. He has always been a helpful member of our community. As I mentioned in my award voting post, he is great at feedback and always willing to critique other’s work in a way that will help them get even better. He has been an appreciated contributor to discussions in the past about the deleted scenes of The Land Before Time, and we had a good talk a month and a half ago about them (back when I had contacted LBT screenwriter Stu Krieger). So he is my choice for this award.

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LBT Projects / Re: Sharptooth Tournament
« on: September 29, 2020, 07:37:26 PM »
This'll be long, but at least it won't be as long after this round. It's fine, since I don't have much to do at the moment anyway.

First Round

Sharptooth Tournament A: Sharptooth himself stomps over the random VI rex. I shouldn't even have to explain this one.

Sharptooth Tournament B: The gray sharptooth was quite pathetic in my opinion, in fact, he is the worst of the three T. rex to appear in X. Why? Because he tripped over Shorty instead of squashing him. I think the Belly Dragger has the advantage, and would likely pull him into the water.

Sharptooth Tournament C: This was a tough one. Ultimately, I think the fifth film's sharptooth wins this. He's average speed but a good fighter, as shown when he manages to hold off both of Chomper's parents for a while. The Carnotaurus is fast but I don't think he would be able to contend with this guy.

Sharptooth Tournament D: Now I know Red Claw has been quite pathetic during his appearances, but I think he can handle this shark from the shallows. It isn't particularly massive - compared to the kids, the shark is more like a great white than a megalodon, so I think that Red Claw should be able to pull it off.

Sharptooth Tournament E: Dil alone doesn't stand a chance against just about any sharptooth... because of her bad vision.

Sharptooth Tournament F: The Sailback sharptooth in XII is similar in size over the Meanest sharptooth, but faster. Meanwhile, the meanest sharptooth is fairly slow. I think the sailback has this one.

Sharptooth Tournament G: Three VII raptors killed a whole herd of adult dinosaurs, while the XI ones didn't stand a chance. I think you know which is superior.

Sharptooth Tournament H: These raptors are scary and durable as hell. I think they would come out on top.

Sharptooth Tournament I: The TV series Belly Draggers are pretty pathetic and not very fast. Papa Sharptooth would rip one apart.

Sharptooth Tournament J: This one could go either way. Both T. rex are evenly matched in my book. I'll go with the Mountain Sharptooth I guess since he seemed a bit faster and slightly scarier.

Sharptooth Tournament K: Neither the Useless Sharptooth nor the Scarred Sharptooth are particularly special, so it's a close one. I'll give it to the Useless Sharptooth, since Allosaurus is my favorite dinosaur after all.

Sharptooth Tournament L: "Mmmm," says Thud, "yummy bird".

Sharptooth Tournament M: I like Screech more than Thud, but he's dead meat here. Giant predatory plesiosaurs are not to be taken lightly.

Sharptooth Tournament N: The Featherhead Sharptooth would eventually snatch up the flyer.

Sharptooth Tournament O: I don't think the orange-brown sharptooth would be able to stop the huge sharptooth swimmer.

Sharptooth Tournament P: Creatures with a posture like Dimetrodon don't have much of a chance against bipeds like Mama Sharptooth...

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LBT Projects / Re: Sharptooth Tournament
« on: September 29, 2020, 06:51:08 PM »
This is right up my alley  :yes

However, just one little thing I noticed. All of the aquatic or semi-aquatic sharpteeth seem to be facing land sharpteeth in the first round. I think it would have been a little better to start off by putting the sharpteeth that live within the same element (for example, Dil vs the sharptooth swimmer from the ninth film) instead of Dil vs . But that's only a nitpick. This is a great idea and it'll be interesting to see how things play out (obviously we know the winner :p , but we don't exactly know what the road to the end will look like yet).

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Saurus Rock: Member Hall of Fame / Re: Award Voting 2020
« on: September 28, 2020, 09:32:20 PM »
This is my second time voting in the awards. Here we go.

Fanart Award:
There has been some great art submitted by this community this year, but I think Flathead770 should have this award. I’ll never forget the LBT 14 Carnotaurus drawing he made for me for my birthday - he didn’t have to, but he did it anyway. I know that was three years ago now but his art is even better now so this year I think he should win the award.

Feedback Award:
This was hard, but I’ve gotta go with Sovereign. I have seen how constructive he can be, despite me not being an artist or fanfiction writer (other than when I wrote that ‘story’ in 2017, forget that). I have seen his posts and they are undoubtedly the kinds that help people improve. They are great so he gets my vote. But that’s not to say that others are not as constructive as he is at giving feedback; shout-out to them as well.

Friendly Member Award:
Skipped. It’s too hard to pick. This community is by far the most friendly and least toxic one I’ve been involved in. Everyone on here should be proud, because it seems it’s hard to pull off online communities like this anymore, at least from my experience. Because of that, there is no single individual here who deserves this award; the dozens who continue to help keep this place thriving for years to come all should have it.

LBT Discussion Award:
I’ve gotta go with StardustSoldier. Since joining the forum last year, he has really contributed to these sections. As others have mentioned, he has made a lot of reviews on the films and TV series that should not go unnoticed. So he gets my vote for this category.

Helpful Member Award:
No doubt that Mumbling should get this one. I mean, when’s the last time she didn’t help anyone in need? It would be a long list for sure. A shoutout to Rhombus and the rest of the staff as well, as they are a big part of keeping the forum up and running.

Proactive Award:
Wow. I absolutely have to go with Vojeds. Many others have said it, and I will too. 32 emoticons is a lot of effort. Not many are so dedicated as he is, which makes him the undisputed pick for this year’s award.

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Character Showcase / Re: Useless Sharptooth Showcase - September 2020
« on: September 04, 2020, 04:14:15 PM »
I'm pretty confident that I've spent more time discussing this one specific sharptooth with people on the wiki than I have characters like Bron, Tria or Ali. Make of that what you will.

Speaking as someone who has spent 70% of his time buried in the sharptooth aspect of the series over things like stories and actual characters, and as someone who is decently fresh off of all fourteen of the movies, I think it's inoffensive as far as sharpteeth go; it is lame, but at least it does more than just stand around and roar and trip over tiny pebbles like some of the later ones - heck, I don't even think it's the worst in its own movie, I would argue that that honor goes to the random T. rex that pops up at a point during the climax.

Oh yeah, you and I had a lot of discussions about that guy (and the other sharpteeth too) on the wiki from 2017-2019, that’s for sure...

Given that Allosaurus is my favorite dinosaur, I was hoping that they would have done something to make it more scary. The only thing impressive about it was the fact it survived that fall...
At least the music tracks accompanying the scenes in which it appeared were dramatic enough: Sharptooth and the Earthquake, of course, and also that one theme from the original where Littlefoot saves his friends at the Mountains That Burn. I think that played twice; first time was the Michael Tavera remix and then the original Horner version.
But despite that, the music doesn’t completely save the Allosaurus. However, I do have fond childhood memories of watching VI on DVD, seeing it on top of the log, slowly moving towards the stuck Spike; that is a scene that is embedded in my head forever, for some reason. Was it useless? No, it served a purpose in the plot. Littlefoot probably wouldn’t have been able to attempt to “fix” the “bad luck” without it falling to its apparent death. What else was he going to do - go look that random T. rex that was out there?

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and whoa, very early production was started somewhere in nineteen eighty FOUR? :O

Yeah, that one sure had me puzzled. Most sources say the concept of “The Land Before Time Began” was created in 1985. In Sovereign’s message, Krieger himself said that they begun work on it in 1985.

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Last week, I sent an email to the original film’s screenwriter, Stu Krieger (who Sovereign had contacted a couple of years ago). I asked him some questions about the oasis scene. We know it was going to be in the film, but we do not know when it was cut. So, I asked him if he knew about it, and if so, when it was cut. I wanted to know if it ended up being animated.


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Hi ——,

It's always nice to hear from an LBT fan. As with any film, there were numerous iterations in the editing stages so there were a number of scenes that made it as far as the pencil-test animated version that didn' ultimately wind up in the film that was released. Some were cut for pacing, some were cut because they weren't adding new information to the overall plot and some were cut simply because (given the target audience) we wanted to keep the film tight and as engaging as possible. Even the addition of Rooter as the narrator came fairly late in the process. Viewing early cuts, we decided it would be helpful to have a "guide" filling in some of the backstory that we didn't want the young characters to articulate.
      In terms of the oasis scene, we always strived to have the "all species should be able to coexist" message of the film remain subtext more than something that was repeatedly hammered home. In all of the story conferences we had along the way, involving Spielberg, Lucas, Bluth, the producers and me, we never spoke directly about specific scenes in terms of their sociological context but instead focused on the storytelling and structure that best supported the notion of creating an entertaining film. In all honesty, given that we worked on the film from 1984-1988 (more than 32 years ago) I remember that oasis sequence but am not sure if it made it to the animation stage or not. As I said, A LOT of things came and went as the script and cuts of the movie evolved.

Sorry I can't be more definitive but I hope this did shed some light on the process.

Best,

Stu Krieger
Professor
Department of Theatre, Film & Digital Production
University of California, Riverside
INTS 2122


As you can see, he wasn’t sure when it was cut, but it was probably a silly question by me as it was over 30 years ago. He did imply that the oasis scene was cut to tone down the racism aspect, as we know, so it wasn’t shoved in the face of viewers. It was nice to hear from him about how the story was produced. And, I myself did not know that Pat Hingle ended up voicing the narrator that late.

I have since followed up with a reply, asking him about a couple other scenes, so I will post his next response here if I get one!

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1988 Theatrical Release / Re: The Elusive Illustrated Storybook
« on: June 24, 2019, 01:03:15 PM »
It seems that the Sharptooth attack in both the book and the script are shorter than the storyboards. When Cera starts going "the wrong way", Sharptooth exposes them and Littlefoot's mother appears pretty fast. But the 1986 storyboards had a lot more than that. Perhaps they had already trimmed the scene quite a bit before it was animated? It would suck if so, but it's starting to seem like it.

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Solid message, I would probably replace "the ribcage scene" with "a ribcage scene" if I was writing it but you don't have to.  :duckyhappy

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As for the latter question, I'm not personally too interested in that one but I van put it in the message as well.

Actually forget what I said - I'll just ask one of them myself at some point since it's not that important.

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The Welcome Center / Re: Greetings Hypnotists!
« on: June 11, 2019, 08:16:20 PM »
Hey, I found your original welcome post. Not too many people welcomed you the first time around it seems.

A formal welcome back from me! :D
(even though you came back for awhile already)

If there was one word I would use to describe my welcome post nowadays, "cringe" would be it :lol

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Since Hunter did not reply, perhaps we could move on to the next Journey of the Brave storyboard artist. I have the website links for Larry Houston, Fred Gonzales, and Robert Sledge in reply #298. Starting with Houston, I suppose we could ask him similar questions as we asked Hunter - were there any deleted scenes and if so do you still have any storyboards of them?

Also, I kinda want to know if Hunter was just mistaken when she identified the Featherhead Sharpteeth as "Allosauruses" because they certainly look like a lot more like either Monolophosaurus or Yutyrannus to me... so maybe we could ask Houston what kind of dinosaur the featherheads are supposed to be :p

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